Landmark Forum - Is it a cult? My honest opinion and what I got from the Landmark Forum (2023)


Recently I attended the Landmark Forum in central London. In this video I offer my thoughts on the forum and whether I would recommend people attending.

I had some very insightful experiences while doing Landmark which really opened up a lot of possibilities in my life.

There are a lot of videos discussing whether Landmark is a cult online and after attending the forum I definitely have my own opinion on whether Landmark is a cult.

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So I've, just completed the landmark program up in London over the last four days and I wanted to just shoot a video, just to kind of summarize, everything that I thought of in my reflections come of the day after so first of all, the first thing to say is, if you look online landmark is one of those things that polarizes people.

You've got some people to say that it's the best and most thing, the most enlightening thing they've ever done.

And then you've got others that will say that quite frankly, landmark feels a little bit more like just a cult and little else.

And to be honest, a little bit of a waste of your money, which it's something that costs five hundred and ninety quid that's, definitely something you should factor in in your decision in terms of whether to do it for me.

I can actually see both elements of it I did have probably two of the biggest revelations I've had in my life force during the course and I also came away thinking.

There is some elements of this course that do make me feel a little bit uncomfortable and I would also argue that those two life experiences in life epiphanies that I had came as a result.

More of the people that I met on the course rather than actually what the course material was itself.

So the premise of landmark really kind of revolves around and really kind of comes down to the idea that essentially life has no meaning and everything that we give meaning to everything that has meaning in our life is something that we have essentially given meaning ourselves to ie.

We've created a story on top of the event that actually happens and landmark really works towards kind of shifting away from those closing the past or from kind of moving into a new world, what you'll be able to assign or go through a life where you don't assign meaning to things that doesn't need to have meaning assigned to it.

So on one hand, I think I is a hugely liberating concept and I think on one hand, there's, actually a lot to be said for that.

And for me, personally, the reasons I actually took the course was really I just wanted to have a little bit more confidence in life and I really want to have a little bit more confidence in my working capabilities as well.

I'd always kind of felt I had the ability to blog and project confidence without actually thinking that I necessarily had the confidence within with.

You know, with inside me, actually to go with the confidence.

I was backing up and I hope that landmark could help me to get that self, belief, it's too early to say whether it's done that, but it's definitely helped me shift off a lot of the anxieties that I had kind of bubbling below the surface that you could argue, I, didn't, necessarily need to have and I think for that reason there's there's been some merit in me doing the program.

I would also argue that landmarks days are very very long.

And if you are the kind of person that struggles with being restless, well, you're the kind of person that wants kind of an immediate answer it's, not the program for you I mean, each day starts at 9:00 a.m.

and each day finishes at M p.m.

with the exception of the fourth and final day and I would argue that though those days do go relatively quickly, and they don't feel like thirty nowadays, they do for like unbelievably long days.

And on each day, when you get home, it's, probably going to be realistically for most people between eleven and twelve the thought of then going back the next day, leaving your house, you know, seven or eight or whatever to be there for nine.

It can feel very psychologically draining knowing that you have to do that.

So that is something to definitely be mindful of I also say as well that the tip of the trainer teacher, whatever you want to call him that we had.

He was quite a divisive character.

I mean, I myself work in HR and staff training.

So I have seen how a coach or a trainer.

Sometimes at times works best when they're divisive, and you almost don't want a coach to necessarily be liked by everybody in the room, and it was interesting for me to observe that in our course, where we had I think roughly between about 130 150 people, a lot of the women were the ones that more kind of disliked him and I.

Suppose you could possibly argue that maybe he could have shown a little bit more empathy to some of the issues that were coming up in the room for people and I think you could possibly argue that.

Maybe there were times when he came on a little bit harder than he needed to for me, personally, I don't have a huge problem of that.

But there were a lot of people that took homage with that.

And there are a lot of people that did challenge him at times, but I think part of being a good joke.

A good coach is to deal with challenge as and when it comes on.

The third day, when lamb Marcus kind of final principle revealed as I said that the idea that life has no meaning.

And we are all essentially just human beings that react to previous life experience.

It was a very odd experience, because he essentially delivered it in a way that first of all made, you feel very bleak and almost numb towards the rest of your life and almost questioning what the purpose was before then building us up again.

So when he did the revelation and built us back up again, everybody left in this kind of euphoric state.

And it was just before our it's, just before our dinner break on the third day.

And it was strange going for people with dinner on the course, because it was all like we were kind of living this euphoric high together and I mean, I have done drugs in the past.

And it almost felt a little bit like that in terms of we were these people that were sitting together on this shared path, kind of living life, a slightly higher level than we previously had them.

Obviously when you have that kind of experience it's not going to last and reflecting on it, the day after I kind of feel a little bit like it's, nothing I didn't already know, I kind of feel like it's nothing that you couldn't find from doing your own research online.

And a lot of the concepts of land markers.

People pointed out in the room are quite similar to things like Eckhart Tolle with the idea of living in the present and being in the now taking some concepts away from Buddhism and the Kabbalah and also those elements of NLP and kind of like emotional reframing as well.

But if you're somebody that's never taken your mind there or you're, somebody that's never researched anything like that, then possibly that's something that you will definitely definitely get out of that.

The two life experiences I've actually hadn't taken away from landmark I actually, am incredibly grateful to have had.

And for that reason alone, I'm happy to have paid the five hundred.

Ninety quid I paid.

And instantly we were not joking here within two days, help me patch up my relationship with my dad in a way that I'd never really thought of actually doing.

And that that for me in itself is worth all the money in the world and I also had some really really interesting conversations with people that I never would have probably met outside doing a course like that.

And that again is is worth all the money in the world because there's been things that I've struggled with that just talking to people that have had not similar experiences.

But people that have had the same goal in terms of working through their previous life experiences.

We've kind of you know, insights and shared views.

And they've kind of really helped me to kind of reframe my mind and kind of take it in a more positive direction.

And to give the program credit again as I said, I, don't know, if this is landmark, whether this is the people that I met I've had counseling several times between the ages of sort of 24 to 26 27.

And then a little bit later again, at kind of 29 and I've never really got that far with counseling I've kind of unburdened a lot of things, but never really kind of taken them to a.

You know, a level where I actually resolved them.

They've just kind of heightened them in my awareness and I think to a certain extent, that's possibly because I found that counseling kind of at times, often if it's done to a average standard and not exceptional standards, often kind of allows you to process it without actually finding the solution for yourself when you're just kind of unburden and landmark actually helped me kind of find a solution for myself, which I have to say instantly I feel has has been a massive positive step of like 10, 15 percent already in my life.

And some of the revelations that I've had probably came due to the intensity in the length of the course.

And the fact that the were times when when you kind of forced to face up to everything, and you are kind of forced to reflect I also have to say as well that I thought that the course would be quite technique focused at times I thought, there'd be times when we do kind of group work, a subset I work in HR and staff training.

So I'm fairly well aware of how a structure of a training course works.

But there wasn't actually so much of that.

And a lot of the times it was actually a point it's, very, very emotional and I'm, quite a I'm, a sensitive guy in terms of my ability to empathize and relate to people, but I'm, actually, not a particularly sensitive guy in terms of things making me cry.

But there are a couple of incidents where I found myself getting very very emotional.

And for a, you know, you do empathize with people in the course, very quickly.

You do empathize a lot with what people have been through and make your own kind of correlations and kind of similarities with it.

And essentially that is what you're meant to do that's, the power of shared and group learning and it's really effective to do that from people that you would never actually have met before that would have had experiences that you can't actually have imagined happening to you with that being said, there are elements of the Cole beside which a lot of people do say.

And in fact, on the first day, when he did a kind of opening Q&A, is there any questions that people had one man did actually step up and say, his landmark coal.

So the first thing that makes it feel cultish is the fact that there is a lot of very strange and almost melodramatic language.

That's used, for example, there's references to creating a new genesis of possibility, which kind of feels like it's, almost making its own take on religion of viously.

Of course, it isn't.

But that kind of language, one might sounds like it's kind of landmarks kind of getting above its station and possibly that it.

It doesn't necessarily need to be quite over there so over-elaborate with it.

And then the other thing as well is that there is several references throughout the throughout the program to what what the next program you should be doing is and that whilst it does feel cold ish, because it kind of feels a little bit like once you're in you're in it's also a little bit like we're going to catch these people whilst they're in the course and feeling vulnerable.

And at that point, we're then going to try and get another sell out of them and I can understand why a landmark does that in terms of the fact that they don't actually do any external advertising.

So essentially people booking onto the course, comes directly from word of mouth.

And the best way obviously to get people on the course by word of mouth is to get people that have done.

The course, bringing their friends along and on the third day graduates from the program are invited to come along with the people that they recommended through the program and it's kind of very much it's, a very kind of cultish, meaning in terms of when you've got a room full of 150 to 200 people altogether that have done the same course and have the same shared vision and have taken the same principles back to their life and I would appreciate it if you're an external person.

And you were watching that you may think a little bit like perhaps the people in this room have been brainwashed, and that isn't the case, but it's just it's, such a it's, such a kind of add something away of phrasing.

It it's actually kind of let's bring everybody together and get them to articulate the vision together.

But it does.

It does have a cultish element to it.

And the other thing as well is that prior to the fourth day.

The fourth day is the shorter evening session.

People are about to finish the program can bring loved ones along to kind of watch them and not quite graduate, but Washington complete the program you'll be encouraged to tell your loved one, what they should be doing the program and it's a little bit like a kind of cult in terms of you're, bringing people from the outside and you're welcoming to them they're welcoming into them into your world.

And something that I have to say, I, actually, really did dislike was on the third day.

When the teacher said, referencing, the fourth day, when he said, tell the people that you'll bring that tell the people that you're bringing to bring their card because they're gonna want to sign up it's a little bit like that kind of pre conceiving that this is how people are going to come and it's a little bit like we're gonna take their money.

You know, we're gonna recruit them in and then were going to take their money.

Just as we tat yours, and that a makes it feel a little bit of a scam, which it isn't.

And that B makes it feel a little bit like let's, recruit new members, let's take everything we can from these new members.

And for me that kind of devalue is actually the quality of the program and some of the stuff that you do come out with so that being said, I'm, glad I did it like I say, there's, there's already been some positive influences in my life and there's already been some things that I've taken away and I thought, I actually really liked that.

But there is a that slightly darker side just to be mindful of, but I was actually talking about it with my friend yesterday know the day before sorry, when we were coming back from the third day and I said about how I feel the cultish nests and the sales stuff kind of devalues the program.

And he made the point that he's perfectly right to say if you're a grown other when you can make your decision, and you can ignore that it's, not really that detrimental and it's, not really about damaging to do that.

You just have to assume that people are grown adults and capable of I suppose just capable of making decisions for themselves as to whether they want to do the program or not so I, leave it there more than happy to answer any questions, anybody's got on the program, but I hope I've given a fairly accurate and very truthful review of what my experience of doing landmark actually was.


Is landmark worldwide a cult? ›

Others, such as George Chryssides, question some aspects of these characterizations. Landmark maintains that it is an educational foundation and denies being a religious movement. Landmark has threatened or pursued lawsuits against people who call it a cult.

Is the Landmark Forum worth it? ›

The short answer is that it's well worth the tuition, and most participants rate it as worth that many times over. By the standards of almost any other personal development courses, Landmark's are ridiculously cheap - a small fraction of what you'd pay for, say, Tony Robbins' programs.

Is landmark worldwide a pyramid scheme? ›

Landmark is definitely not a pyramid scheme. Pyramid schemes operate where you get money for recruiting people and also when those people recruit people and the people they recruit get recruited, and so on, and so on, etc..

What is the point of Landmark Forum? ›

The Landmark Forum is grounded in a model of transformative learning—a way of learning that gives people an awareness of the basic structures in which they know, think, and act. From that awareness comes a fundamental shift that leaves people more fully in accord with their own possibilities and those of others.

Why is Landmark Forum banned in France? ›

PSA, Landmark Forum was banned as a cult in France after the release of an investigative documentary [0] which they tried vigorously to suppress. The group is a magnet for vulnerable people who respond to authoritarian style leadership and coercive psychological techniques including public shaming and gaslighting.

What is landmark religion? ›

Landmarkism is a Southern Baptist phenomenon that grew out of the changing religious environment of the South in the early 1850s.

Do landmark leaders get paid? ›

They don't get paid like doctors or lawyers, and they don't get paid like retail workers. Their starting wages are in the middle to upper 'five figure' range (US dollars) and after some years they can earn in the low six figures. If they take on additional corporate responsibilities and authority, they can earn more.

What are the alternatives to Landmark Forum? ›

Alternatives and possible competitors to Landmark Forum may include University of St. Gallen , Docsity , and Live Lingua .

How expensive is the Landmark Forum? ›

Tuitions for The Landmark Forum
Full TuitionDeposit
UNITED STATES (US Dollars)$795$200
AUSTRALIA (Australian Dollars; including GST)$795$110
BRAZIL (Brazilian Reals)2,150500
CANADA (Canadian Dollars; including taxes)$865$150
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Who is the competitor of Landmark Group? ›

Landmark Group's competitors include Aviva, HSBC, Bank of America, Schroders.

Does Apple use Landmark Forum? ›

Landmark seminars and courses are very well known and have been used for decades by thousands of successful companies and institutions such as lululemon, Reebok, Apple, Mercedes-Benz USA, police departments and NASA, to name just a few.

What company owns landmark? ›

Landmark is a for-profit company 100% owned by over 600 employees through an Employee Stock Ownership Plan (ESOP) and similar international plans. The organization's executive team reports to a Board of Directors that is elected annually by the ESOP.

How many people have taken the Landmark Forum? ›

2.4 Million People on 6 Continents,

We have found overall in our research that the kinds of people who participate in The Landmark Forum are those who consider life an ongoing opportunity: They are people not satisfied with reaching a particular plateau—they see life as an opportunity to keep learning.

Who runs landmark Forums? ›

Werner Hans Erhard (born John Paul Rosenberg; September 5, 1935) is an American author and lecturer known for founding est (offered from 1971 to 1984). In 1985 Erhard replaced the est Training with a newly designed program, the Forum. Since 1991 the Forum has been kept up to date and offered by Landmark Education.

Does Landmark Forum use hypnosis? ›

Really good question. Originally Answered: Does the landmark forum put people into a trance state and use hypnosis in a number of exercises and implant suggestions in them? Absolutely not. All programs are based on conversations.

Can you cancel Landmark Forum? ›

To cancel you simply must notify your local Landmark office in writing. If you have any questions, concerns, or complaints, or if we can be of assistance in any way, please do not hesitate to contact your local Landmark office.

What did Landmark Forum used to be called? ›

The first connection between New Age and business life started with the founding of Erhard Seminar Training (EST) in the US, California in 1971. In 1984 EST became known as Forum and nowadays it operates under the name Landmark.

Is Landmark Forum free? ›

Attending a free Introduction to The Landmark Forum is an opportunity to get your questions answered, see how it actually works, and what you personally could get out of it.

What was the major theology for landmarkism? ›

Landmarkism is a Baptist ecclesiology that emerged in the mid-19th century in the American South. It upholds the perpetuity theory of Baptist origins, which asserts an unbroken continuity and exclusive legitimacy of the Baptist movement since the apostolic period.

What is the most spread religion in America? ›

Christianity is the largest religion in the United States at 63% of the population, with the various Protestant Churches having the most adherents. According to a 2021 Pew Research Center survey, religiously unaffiliated adults rose to 29%.

What is the landmark Baptist belief? ›

Landmarkers believed that Baptists, who participated in “pulpit exchanges” with other denominations, accepted immersion performed outside the auspices of a Baptist church, or celebrated communion beyond the confines of local church membership, removed an ancient landmark that was essential to Baptist identity.

What is a racket in Landmark Forum? ›

Definitions. “A racket is an unproductive way of being or acting that includes a complaint that something. shouldn't be the way it is.” Landmark Education.

How much do landmark leaders make? ›

The average Landmark executive compensation is $149,919 a year. The median estimated compensation for executives at Landmark including base salary and bonus is $147,731, or $71 per hour. At Landmark, the most compensated executive makes $450,000, annually, and the lowest compensated makes $30,000.

How many employees does landmark have? ›

Landmark Industries has 900 employees.

What happens day 3 at Landmark Forum? ›

In this session, we explore a new view of language that alters the very nature of what is possible. Language comes to be seen as a creative act. Listening and speaking – actions we would normally see as commonplace – take on new dimensions and unexpected power. They become instruments of creation.

What is landmark community? ›


Is landmark a network marketing? ›

They don't do MLM or pyramid scheme in a sense that whoever signs up new people are not actually getting monetarily benefited. But in reality, it's nothing but a very successful Viral marketing strategy that they have smartly invented.

How much does landmark coaching cost? ›

Tuitions for The Landmark Forum for Reviewers
Full Tuition
UNITED STATES (US Dollars)$350

Does landmark offer refunds? ›

Landmark | Returns. If you're not 100% satisfied with your purchase we'll be more than happy to help you with an exchange or refund.

How long are landmark seminars? ›

In each seminar series, you'll work on what's up in front of you—personal projects and objectives as large or specific as you like—and find the means for making possibility a reality. Seminars occur in 10 evening sessions, usually during a three-month period. Each session is approximately 3 hours.

What country is landmark group from? ›

About Landmark Group: Founded in 1973 with a single store in Bahrain, the Landmark Group has successfully grown into one of the largest and most successful retail and hospitality conglomerates in the Middle East, Africa and the Indian subcontinent, with a significant global footprint.

How many brands are under Landmark Group? ›

Over 40 world-class brands

We offer customers a diverse portfolio of own and franchise brands that have grown into category leaders.

Is landmark a Fortune 500 company? ›

Landmark achievement

The news of the 500 list came as a surprise to his father and him, says Siddharth, who was in a meeting when a friend called him with a congratulatory wish. “ I thought he was wishing me for the Forbes list, which mentioned us around nine months ago.

Does Bill Gates use Apple? ›

Bill Gates has said many times that he prefers Android over iPhone, and that apparently hasn't changed. In a recent “Ask Me Anything” on Reddit, the Microsoft co-founder revealed that he unsurprisingly hasn't made the switch to an iPhone nor does he use an iPad, Mac, or Microsoft Surface Duo.

Which of the following product is offered by landmark? ›

Landmark - It offers curated range of toys, front listed books, stationery and sports merchandise in its 16 stores.

Where is the best place in USA to buy Apple products? ›

Retailers like Amazon, Best Buy, and B&H Photo are currently offering some of the best Apple deals on all kinds of Apple kit.

Did Landmark get bought out? ›

The acquisition of Landmark is an example of the type of organization we want to join the Allied Universal family where culture and well-respected event service leadership and operations align with our values and goal to be the world's best service company.”

How long has Landmark been in business? ›

Landmark Management Services, a full-service property management and consulting organization, was founded in 2004 by Jeffery Enright, a commercial and residential broker and property management developer.

What is the story of landmark group? ›

We are the Landmark Group. The Landmark Group began its journey in 1973 with one store in Bahrain and has grown into one of the largest omnichannel retailer of trusted, homegrown brands offering exceptional value. Today the Group operates over 2,200 outlets, with 10 online brands.

How long is the Landmark Forum? ›

There are two types of introductions and both last approximately three hours: A Special Evening about The Landmark Forum, a large event led by a Landmark Forum leader held monthly at Landmark offices. See schedules.

How big is landmark? ›

Overview. Landmark College is a private institution that was founded in 1985. It has a total undergraduate enrollment of 569 (fall 2021), its setting is rural, and the campus size is 110 acres.

Is Landmark Forum legit? ›

Spoiler alert: Do I think Landmark is a scam? No. But there is an uncomfortable amount of hard-selling and referral pressure placed on attendees to recruit friends and family to sign up for the Forum.

Where is landmark solutions headquarters? ›

Where is Landmark Solutions 's headquarters? Landmark Solutions is located in London, England, United Kingdom .

What happened to Werner Erhard? ›

Currently Werner Erhard commits his time and intellectual effort almost exclusively to the academic world. Erhard was most recently published by Columbia University's Center On Capitalism and Society in their Journal: Capitalism and Society, Volume 12, Issue 1.

Are you in control during hypnotherapy? ›

Contrary to what you might see in movies or during a hypnotist stage act, people don't lose control over their behavior during hypnosis. They usually remain aware during a session and remember what happens.

Who should avoid hypnosis? ›

Hypnosis should be avoided if you are suffering from: Severe depression. Psychosis. A drug or alcohol problem.

What is hypnosis not good for? ›

Hypnosis may not be appropriate for people with severe mental health issues, such as psychotic symptoms, including hallucinations and delusions. It might also be inappropriate for someone who uses drugs or alcohol. The use of hypnosis for memory retrieval is largely unsupported by research.

Who is behind landmark? ›

About. Landmark evolved from an organisation called EST (Erhard Seminar Training), founded in the 1970s by former salesman Werner Erhard… In 1991, he sold his intellectual property to former EST employees, who founded the more mainstream Landmark Education.

What companies use landmark forums? ›

Landmark seminars and courses are very well known and have been used for decades by thousands of successful companies and institutions such as lululemon, Reebok, Apple, Mercedes-Benz USA, police departments and NASA, to name just a few.

What country is Landmark Group from? ›

About Landmark Group: Founded in 1973 with a single store in Bahrain, the Landmark Group has successfully grown into one of the largest and most successful retail and hospitality conglomerates in the Middle East, Africa and the Indian subcontinent, with a significant global footprint.

What is the cost of the landmark forum? ›

Tuitions for The Landmark Forum
Full TuitionDeposit
UNITED STATES (US Dollars)$795$200
AUSTRALIA (Australian Dollars; including GST)$795$110
BRAZIL (Brazilian Reals)2,150500
CANADA (Canadian Dollars; including taxes)$865$150
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What nationality is landmark? ›

Landmark Group is an UAE multinational conglomerate based in Dubai, UAE headed by Micky Jagtiani, who is the founder and chairman of the company. The group is involved in retailing of apparel, footwear, consumer electronics, cosmetics & beauty products, home improvement and baby products.

How many people have taken the landmark forum? ›

2.4 Million People on 6 Continents,

We have found overall in our research that the kinds of people who participate in The Landmark Forum are those who consider life an ongoing opportunity: They are people not satisfied with reaching a particular plateau—they see life as an opportunity to keep learning.

Who owns the Landmark Corporation? ›

Landmark (formerly known as The Landmark) is a department store and supermarket run by Citysuper Incorporated, the holding company of the Landmark Corporation, owned by Enrique Cheng.

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